This is a forum for my observations about a variety of human resources topics and to discuss and question current human resources practices. I want to keep the good things about HR and dump the things that stink. I am sometimes controversial, sometimes humorous, and always educational.
Wednesday, July 07, 2010
Age is Just a State of Mind: At Least I Think So Because Today Is My Birthday
I am smarter than I used to be, primarily because I have learned I don't know it all. I have learned to listen better and ask better questions. I have a lot of knowledge but also realize being smart is not just about "knowing" things. I respect traditions but embrace "new". I am computer savvy, social media savvy, and device savvy (My daughter was blown away the first "text" she got from me).
I make these points because I am pretty certain that, if I were to leave my consulting position, I would be unable to find a position in HR. Even HR professionals, who should know better, look down on age. (See my series on AGEISM) I have several friends, excellent professionals all, who have similar capabilities who are having very difficult times finding HR positions. If gray hair is seen, or no hair is seen, or you have some wrinkles, or a decade is mentioned you get tagged as "old." Sure you hear "Well you look great for your age" (which not quite the compliment it is meant to be), but that statement is loaded with implications. Companies are making mistakes by not hiring those people. Some company would make a mistake by not making me a CHRO if I sought such a position. And as a result they miss out on tons of experience backed by great ideas, high work ethic, creativity and enough backbone to stand up to the most difficult of employees.
Now take a look around at candidates you are considering, for whatever position you have open. Do you have the same biases when you see a bald head, a gray pate, a wrinkled brow or crows feet around the eyes? Is this coloring your perception of their abilities? Are you really making a decision without consideration and hiding behind "overqualification'? For if you are then you may be cheating your company out of one of the best employees you may ever have.
Yes I realize some people who reach 50 or 60 or 70 act old, look old, think old. But I have met many 20 or 30 or 40 something who also think "old" and act "old." OLD is a state of mind. It is how you approach life. To me if you embrace new ideas, new ways of doing things, are open to possibilities then you are not "old" regardless of physical age. So look at those candidates again and reassess who is really the "old" one.
As a final word on the subject just remember someday you too will be in that position. How would you want someone to decide on you? Abilities or age?
Thursday, June 03, 2010
Preconceived Notions: Do They Cause Us to Miss Things
The reality of the situation was much different. Few people stopped, he only made $32, and as the following video shows only one person recognized him.
For the writers and commenters this raised the question "Are our lifes so rushed that we cannot slow down to appreciate the beauty in them?" To me it raises a question of preconceived notions. In this case we assume that if someone has to ply their musical trade in a subway they are not very good. We don't even bother to listen to see if our preconceived notions and assumptions are true or not. In this case they were not. Bell is superb, yet few bothered to even give him a glance.
How about you. Do you have preconceived notions that should be reconsidered? Do you look at someone because of their age, race, color, education, etc. and assume they could not/should not work for you?
THINK ABOUT IT.
Photo credit: Mike Haberman
Tuesday, September 08, 2009
Ageism Part 3: What HR Needs to Know
Age was not originally part of the protected catagories as defined by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It was added with the 1967 passage of the Age Discrimination in Employment Act. And unlike the CRA where coverage starts at 15 employees, its coverage does not start until 20 employees. (This lack of consistency drives HR people nuts.) The law protects workers age 40 or over. It does not provide any protection to workers under 40. It allows employers to favor older workers, even if the "younger" workers are over 40 years of age. This was determined by the Supreme Court in the General Dynamic Land System v. Cline case.
The ADEA prohibits discrimination in all usual areas of employment, but also includes areas not generally considered, such as training and apprenticeship programs and time-off. Harassment based upon age, such as "old" jokes, "old" cartoons, "old" slurs, is also prohibited. So watch the "gray beard" or "old dog" remarks.
There are some areas where age can be a factor. These include:
- State and local governments may institute a mandatory retirement at age of 55 for firefighters and law enforcement officers.
- Employers may require a high-ranking employee to retire if:
- the employee is at least 65
- the employee has worked for at least the previous 2 years as a bona fide executive or is in a high policy making position, and
- the employee is entitled to an immediate, nonforfeitable annual retirement of at least $44,000 from the employer.
- In some cases an employer may reduce benefits paid to older workers if done so in accordance with a bona fide employee benefit plan.
- Employers must offer older workers benefits that are equal to or, in some cases, cost the employer as much as, the benefits offered to younger workers. The rules for determining whether they are equal depend on the type of benefit offered.
- A waiver of the right to sue for age discrimination is valid is only if it meets certain standards to ensure the waiver is knowing and voluntary.
I do want to cover the waiver issues however, because in today's world more HR managers are dealing with them. Waivers have to be knowing and voluntary and the rules for this are:
- It is part of a written agreement between the employee and employer.
- It is written in language that is understandable to the employee or the average of the group.
- Specifically refers to the worker's rights under the ADEA.
- Does not require the employee to waive any rights or claims that may arise after the agreement is signed.
- Gives the employee something of value, over and above to what they may already be entitled. This is typically a severance.
- The employee must be be advised, in writing, to consult an attorney before signing the agreement.
- Must give the employee at least 21 days to consider the agreement, or 45 days in a group termination.
- Give the employee at least 7 days after signing to revoke the agreement.
- If the waiver is in connection with a group termination the employer must also provide the information on the demographics of the group(s) selected for the program.
- By 2010 it is predicted that half the workforce of the US will be over the age of 40.
- You can tell this law was passed by a group of people who used to think 30 was old. If we were doing this today 40 would not be OLD!
- As someone well past 40, I still rankle at the idea that someone thinks it takes me an extra 21 days to make a decision and that I have to have help to do it.
- Age discrimination is one of the fastest growing areas of EEOC suits, so it is going to get worse before it gets better.
- The law allows disparate impact lawsuits, so make sure you are checking the impact of your layoffs. They may end up being more expensive than you think.
Wednesday, September 02, 2009
AgeISM Part 2: The Roots of the Bias
Wikipedia says about the Baby Boom generation "One of the unique features of Boomers was that they tended to think of themselves as a special generation, very different from those that had come before. In the 1960s, as the relatively large numbers of young people became teenagers and young adults, they, and those around them, created a very specific rhetoric around their cohort, and the change they were bringing about. This rhetoric had an important impact in the self perceptions of the boomers, as well as their tendency to define the world in terms of generations, which was a relatively new phenomenon." It goes on to further say "Boomers grew up at a time of dramatic social change. In the United States, that social change marked the generation with a strong cultural cleavage, between the proponents of social change and the more conservative." Additionally, "In general, baby boomers are associated with a rejection or redefinition of traditional values.... As a group, they were the healthiest, and wealthiest generation to that time, and amongst the first to grow up genuinely expecting the world to improve with time."
Now successive generations have picked up our distain of all things "old" and unfortunately we are now the object of that disdain. Rather than accepting our age we fight it with statements like "50 is the new 30" and book titles like Younger Next Year. So even though we (and I am one) dislike ageism, we continue to dislike all things old.
So we aging baby boomers are struggling with conflicted emotions. We dislike being "old" but still feel valuable and we turn to laws to provide us protection in the workplace in order to try to stay employed.
Next post will be about the laws that protect older workers and what HR departments need to be aware of. Stay tuned.
Monday, August 31, 2009
ISM Number Three: AgeISM
Did you know that Courtney Cox has been covered by the ADEA for 5 years now? It is hard to imagine her being the object of AGEISM. But she could be, and in fact she will be starring in a new role in the fall, were she plays a 40 year old woman re-entering the dating scene, in Cougar Town.Over at Punk Rock HR my fellow blogger, Laurie Ruettimann, had this observation in her post entitled Ageism, Sexism & Whatnot "...no one cares about ageism until they’re old." And she is correct! At least on a personal level. HR departments and management teams need to care about it everyday.
So this week I am going to explore agesim in a bit more detail:
- What its roots may be
- What the law is regarding it
- What HR departments need to watch for.
Ageism in the Workplace
I also want you to raise your awareness of ageism. Listen to what people say, especially in your workplace. Watch how people act. Look at commercials. I bet each of you will find at least 5 examples of ageism. And if you are an older job hunter you can probably cite many examples of personal situations.
So while I am writing this week give me some examples! How have you witnessed discrimination, be it because you are young or old?
Photo: From a promotion for the show Cougar Town
Thursday, July 09, 2009
Ageism in the Workplace

Age is important to us, especially it seems in the US. And AGEISM exists everywhere. According to the WiseGeek, ageism is a term coined in 1969 by Robert Butler. Most of us think of it in terms of discrimination against older people, especially in the workplace. As The WiseGeek says "Many people use this term specifically to refer to discrimination against older people, but ageism can strike people of all ages." Teens can feel shut out of the workplace with "adultism", a preference for older workers, and older workers feel shut out by "jeunism", where workplaces prefer younger workers.
The legal protection in this country against discrimination based upon age is provided by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission's (EEOC) enforcement of Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA)of 1967. The law states that it is illegal to discriminate against anyone over the age of 40 in all aspects of employment, unless age is a Bona Fide Occupational Qualification (BFOQ). There is no protection for workers under the age of 40. However, the fact that this law exists does not stop the discrimination from occuring, as you might have guessed. The EEOC reports that in 2008 it "...received 24,582 charges of age discrimination. EEOC resolved 21,415 age discrimination charges in FY 2008 and recovered $82.8 million in monetary benefits for charging parties and other aggrieved individuals (not including monetary benefits obtained through litigation)." This is almost 25% of the total number of discrimination claims of all types.
Friday, September 05, 2008
Ageism, Sexism, Racism: Alive and Well
If you have been watching any of the coverage of the U.S. presidential election you realize that people can get pretty passionate about their choices for candidates. That is one of the things that makes the process interesting. People have differences in how they think taxes, energy, war, employment, unemployment, immigration, natural disasters, the economy and a hundred other issues should be dealt with. And discussion/debate on those issues is healthy. Perhaps better solutions are discovered during that process.But if you have been paying attention you have also seen an ugly side of the process. Rather than healthy debate we have seen biases bared, biases based on race, sex, age, lifestyle and even disability. Biases, for or against a candidate, are, in my opinion not a healthy way to choose a leader. We have seen these biases early on in the Democrat Party process. People wanting Obama exclusively because he is "black" or wanting Clinton because she is a woman. On the Republican side there has been sexism in the critique in the hairstyle of Palin and in her drive and ambition. Who really cares what a leaders hair looks like? Or in asking whether she could care for her family and be a VP. Asked of any male candidates? Not that I have heard. The personal criticism of McCain hits both disability bias and ageism. I have heard people say he looks funny because of the way he holds his arms. Well that happens when they have been broken and not healed correctly. I have heard others call him that "sad, little old white man" and question whether someone his "age" can lead.
Preferring, or not preferring, a candidate based on color of skin, gender, age, or disability is not the way to select your leader. The thing that distresses me the most about this is all those things I have heard or read have been expressed by people in Human Resources. That line about color of skin, gender, age or disability should sound damn familiar!
In my opinion, if you are in HR and have expressed these points of view then I think you should consider a change of profession. If you are going to let these things sway you in your choice of leadership, then in all likelihood they will sway you in your choice of employees, trainees, promotees and demotees. And that has no place in our profession.
Thursday, August 21, 2008
Age Discrimination: Even AARP Is Not Immune

Thursday, March 06, 2008
Discrimination in the Workplace: Double Digit Increases
- Race continues to be the largest number of claims, with 30,510 claims, an increase of 12%;
- Retaliation claims had the largest increase, up 18% to 26,663;
- Age discrimination has the second largest percentage increase, up 15%;
- Sex/Gender claims were the only area with a single digit increase of just 7%, however, during FY 2007, pregnancy charges surged to a record high level of 5,587, up 14% from the prior fiscal year’s record of 4,901. Sexual harassment filings increased for the first time since FY 2000, numbering 12,510 – up 4% from the prior fiscal year’s total of 12,025. Additionally, a record 16% of sexual harassment charges were filed by men, up from 9% in the early 1990s.
- Disability claims reached the highest level in 10 years.
- The EEOC recovered $345 million in monetary relief for the charging parties.
So why this increase in activity? Here is my take on some of them:
- More sexual harassment charges by men- More women bosses?
- Retaliation charges- Lack of training in companies to reinforce that retaliation is as illegal as the harassment and lack of follow up by HR to insure it is not occurring.
- Slow down of sex/gender claims- better balance of male/female ratio in the workplace.
- Disability claims- a greater willingness of the disabled to enter the labor force and a result of an aging workforce as baby boomers age;
- Age claims- well.... I think everyone probably knows the answer to that one.
What is your take on this? You have any alternative explanations?
Monday, February 18, 2008
Is It Really Age? Why Older Workers May Not Get Work
- You have not kept your skills up to date
- You have not become Internet savy
- You are in the "rut" of "I have always done it that way"
- You have no idea what a blog or podcast or wiki is
Then yes you may not be getting a job because of your age. So my initial response has been "take a critical look at yourself" and lay the blame there. I have suggested that a job transition coach might be valuable. Have someone teach you how to interview, dress, and present yourself. Just as when you were younger, you have to have something "saleable" about you.
Now, does this mean that there is no age discrimination? No. It is there. And this is where good HR people come into play. A forward thinking, ethical HR professional does not let their organization succumb to age bias. They help hiring managers get beyond the surface and see the skill sets, the loyality, the work ethic and the energy that many "older" workers bring to the job. However, if you don't have anything worth "buying", all your skills are dusty and outdated, then even the best HR manager is not going to help you. Nor is a recruiter. So look in that mirror. If companies are not buying what your are presenting then do something about it.
HR managers, tell me what you think. Am I delusional?



